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bonesquad
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 Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 9:53 am
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IGN has postet the first pics of the Rev! Not too shabby... If the final has that blue glow, nice. It is interesting though that you can see Revolution printed on the system. Is that really going to be the final name? Or is that just still a big secret. Also that's an interesting 'slanted' stand it has.
http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/615/615008/img_2788923.html
Hopefully this is a good sign we'll get more info out of Nintendo soon. Nintendo's show is in about an hour now....
| Quote: | Revolution is "two to three times more powerful than GameCube," according to Nintendo.
The system will offer a "free Internet-based player-matching service, similar to Xbox Live." The service will also offer downloadable versions of classic Nintendo games, such as Donkey Kong and Super Mario Sunshine.
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Nice to hear Nintendo has a Live-esque service planned. Also it seems Nintendo is going to milk all their old games. Fine. But only 2-3x more powerful than GC? That ain't good.... since even Xbox 360 is said to be 10x more powerful than Xbox. |
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torkworld
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 10:39 am
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Leave it to me to ruin your news-based post with my opinion, but I think the Rev may have brought itself back into the running for my next purchase. My feelings on the graphics issue remain (as long as you can't point out specific flaws, it doesn't matter anymore) so it may not be monumental.
They FINALLY woke up on the online gaming, and making at least the gaming part free would be an advantage, but there's this sinking feeling I have that at one point during this console's lifespan, Nintendo will quit competing with Xbox 360 and PS3 and start concentrating on DS connectivity... I can't shake the demons LOL |
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bonesquad
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 11:47 am
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So you're basing this all on the looks of the Rev? ....
Live is more than just a simple matching service, I'm hoping Nintendo realizes this and adds the various features, even if its going to be free.
Plus while I did think the difference graphically between these will be about the same, Rev has me worried a bit after XBox claims of 10x more powerful and PS3 35x more. Obviously those are inflated numbers, but 2-3x might be quite notiable difference in graphics....
Also, that pic with the hand makes the Rev look quite small. Nice, but how do they plan on fitting a HDD or mass storage in it? I'd be VERY disappointed if it didnt have it... X360 does, while not confirmed PS3 looks like it may come with one too. |
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bonesquad
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 12:17 pm
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From G-A...
| Quote: | Each generation of video game consoles builds on the past to set new standards for the future. As the company with the strongest heritage of innovation, Nintendo redefines expectations for all next-gen systems by employing a wide-ranging strategy to attract more kinds of gamers to more kinds of games. When Nintendo's new console, code-named Revolution, arrives in 2006, everyone will discover the meaning of All-Access Gaming.
"We will show the world what a next-gen system can be. Revolution marries the strongest heritage of innovation to the future of gaming," says Nintendo President Satoru Iwata. "With backward compatibility and the 'virtual console' concept, the stylish, compact body provides maximum gaming power. It will not only take home entertainment into another dimension by expanding the definition of video games, but it also will give you access to the great history of gaming."
Some of the system features that wowed the crowd at the Electronics Entertainment Expo (E3) in Los Angeles include:
* The cool look: The new console boasts high-quality materials and a smart, compact design, approximately the size of three standard DVD cases stacked together. A variety of prototype colors are being showcased during E3. It will come with a silver stand that makes the system a welcome, artistic component of any multimedia setup, whether it's displayed vertically or horizontally.
* Backward compatibility: The new console plays all games from the current Nintendo GameCube(TM) generation. But there's more ...
* The secret weapon: The console also will have downloadable access to 20 years of fan-favorite titles originally released for Nintendo(R) 64, the Super Nintendo Entertainment System(R) (SNES) and even the Nintendo Entertainment System(R) (NES).
* Easy expansion: A bay for an SD memory card will let players expand the internal flash memory.
* Two disc formats, one slot: Instead of a tray, a single, innovative, self-loading media bay will play both 12-centimeter optical discs used for the new system as well as Nintendo GameCube discs. Owners will have the option of equipping a small, self-contained attachment to play movies and other DVD content.
* The specs: The system boasts 512 megabytes of internal flash memory, wireless controllers, two USB 2.0 ports and built-in Wi-Fi access. A worldwide network of Nintendo players can gather to compete in a comfortable, inviting environment. Revolution's technological heart, a processing chip developed with IBM and code-named "Broadway," and a graphics chip set from ATI code-named "Hollywood," will deliver game experiences not previously possible.
* The stars: Introduction of a number of new franchise properties will add to the world's richest stable of stars, including Mario, Zelda, Super Smash Bros., Donkey Kong and Metroid.
* Wireless freedom: A number of Wi-Fi-enabled launch titles are in development that will employ Nintendo's newly announced wireless gaming service, Nintendo(R) Wi-Fi Connection. A worldwide network of Nintendo players can gather to compete in a comfortable, inviting environment.
* Freedom of design: A dynamic development architecture equally accommodates both big-budget, high-profile game "masterpieces" as well as indie games conceived by individual developers equipped with only a big idea.
"Our next console proves small in size but big on ideas," says Reggie Fils-Aime, Nintendo of America's executive vice president of sales & marketing. "We're throwing open the doors of gaming to wider audiences, from casual players to hard-core gamers who live for the thrill of defeating an endless army of wireless opponents."
Nintendo's All-Access Gaming philosophy covers the spectrum. The next console fits anywhere. It brings together new games and old. It gives people worldwide access through wireless Wi-Fi connections. And it opens the world of video games -- to everyone. Software for the new console will even attract people who don't consider themselves players. Adults, kids, men and women around the world will have access to the most popular video game characters, the best game franchises and the most engaging experiences yet developed -- only with Nintendo. |
Nintendo WIFI Connect? Interesting. But no ethernet for BB? Bah./ No mention of a HDD? Bah./ Will play DVDs with an addon, but I dont see that being a big deal especially with PS3 and Blueray...
http://www.gaming-age.com/news/2005/5/17-91
Also, supposedly the final form will be even smaller. (Makes me wonder even more if this thing can compete graphically.) And instead of a HDD it seems it will have 512megs of flash (and can use SD flash cards). Bah! I don't like that since that's not nearly enough room.
Mario, Zelda, Metroid in works for Rev? Wow big surprise. FF Crystal Chronicals 2 for Rev? Who cares that was a terrible game.
I hope they show something else... no gamplay footage yet. No nothing cept a system design and it will be online.... |
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torkworld
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 1:51 pm
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| Quote: | | * Easy expansion: A bay for an SD memory card will let players expand the internal flash memory. |
Me and this dusty 64mb SD card sitting here have heard that lie before... |
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Psydd
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 3:51 pm
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Jesus man...now that I'v ehad a look at all of the upcoming systems, I think the Rev is looking the best for me (and not just visually).
Aesthetically though, DAMN! That is really slick. I think it looks so much better than PS3 or Xbox360.
Free online play is just fantastic. Hopefully there will be some quality games to go with this...I don't want to end up with another nintendo console that I'm ashamed as a gamer to own. |
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TheGreatThomasio
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 6:27 pm
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I think the PS3 has the best design, followed closely by the Revolution, and off in a corner crying itself to sleep with a 100 broken mirrors surrounding it is the 360. Yet, there is hope for the 360! It's controller definately is nice, cause the ps3's look horrible...and for the Revolution's...maybe we will see it tomorrow?
Btw, has anyone else seen pics of the Game Boy Micro? |
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bonesquad
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 9:49 pm
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I don't know what to make of the Rev... cause Nintendo won't say shit! After the MS letdown, here was a chance to start creating a buzz, but they did nothing. Few points (rants):
1) 2 years ago Nintendo said they wouldnt fall behind (and even maybe be out first). Yet their press conf leads me to believe just the opposite, they are well behind. No gameplay footage at all? Bah! Sony's might of been prerendered and just an image of what it could be (still unknown), but thats something, and it did impress!
2) Why did Nintendo come out and say the Rev would be 2-3x more powerful than GC? That concerns me a great deal when MS says 360 is 12x more and Sony says PS3 35x more. Even if those are inflated and are half that, it still kills the Rev. We're talking maybe bigger than DC vs Xbox. I had agreed with Nin that next gen wouldnt be about who has superior graphics, but to not even be in the same league? I sure hope not.
It's possible the special 'revolutionary' features will amaze and make it this amazing system with amazing games, but... yeah. It's hard to get overlly concerned about this since really so little was given, but at the same time that could be very telling and that would be cause for concern.
I will say the system design easily beats X360 and PS3... If GC had look like this who knows how things would of turned out. But its odd that it has 4 controller ports for GC pads. Will the Rev controller just not be able to play GC games.... ? |
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tN^SoUlBuRn
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 10:37 pm
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The Gameboy Micro looks pretty cool, But I'd hoped, if they were going to release another GBA unit, They would have added an "X" and "Y" button on it, to make it more SNES port friendly... It's still cool to see that they aren't dropping the GBA in favor of the DS just yet, as I figured they would.
The Revoluiton footage was lacking. I was hoping for at least some kind of game play footage, or even a glimpse at the controller, to make sure it's not an akward mess like the GC controller was... The only thing I've seen so far that I liked sbout the Revolution besides the console looking better than the other two next gen consoles, is the idea of being able to download "EVERY" Nintendo game, I'm just curious at what kind of price they are going to charge, how they plan on storing them, and if 3rd party games will eventually be available... If the third party support for Revolution sucks as it has for Nintendo consoles for the last eight years, playing through old games might be the only thing to keep the Revolution going while were waiting months on a decent title to come out.
... and what in the hell is up with those console colors? They have your standard White, Black, and Silver, then Neon Green? Hot Pink? ... ugh. If I have to Import another Spice Orange Nintendo console from Japan, I'm going to be angered. |
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bonesquad
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 9:11 pm
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The Rev footage was lacking?! What? Are you going for the understatment of the year award?
The downloadable games is a nice feature (for them to make money), but nothing I'm really interested in since there's this thing called emulation... cough./ And I'm guessing the internal 512meg flash memory will be used to store those. That's enough to hold ALL the NES games, most SNES games, and well, N64 will take up more room.
I do get the picture that Nin is really doing something different. Which is good. I think they realized trying to compete with PS3/X360 directly was a lost cause. I think they are going for a future of games like Animal Crossing and Nintendogs. A future with a lot of smaller developers putting out unique things (see that Alien game from last year). Maybe one where the average person can put together a game? ... I'm thinking sorta, kinda of like the Dreamcast of the next-gen, but hopfully with a greater mass appeal.
I'm interested in the Rev, but not in the same way I am PS3 and X360. Those will be for the big, epic, blockbuster type games. Its where you'll play the next RE, the next God of War. Rev ontheotherhand wlll be for the more lighthearted, fun, quirky games. Where you will play the next Katarmi Damacy and hopefully the next ChuChu... cough. |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 12:17 am
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Yes, games have been emulated for sometime, but if they can emulate their classics, and make them playable online, that would definetly bring a lil' extra life into the system... and I have yet to see any perfect emulations of any 64 games except on The Legend of Zelda discs...
If they DO have the weakest console on the market, when a game comes out for all three consoles, people are going to avoid picking it up for the Rev when they can get a superior version on the more powerful 360 or PS3. That is, if they even go through the trouble of making a downgraded version for the Revolution. The only reason to own a Revolution, if you had one of the other consoles, would be for 1st party games and exclusives... it will be N64 and GameCube all over again... with the aproach they are taking, it's almost like they are setting this up to be their last home console.
... I also read somewhere that they were "simplifying" the controller for the Revolution, that may be why they had to put ports for those lame ass Gamecube controllers, though I think a GC controller adapter would work out better... If the controller is too much simpler than the other two consoles, that will hender 3rd party ports as well. |
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 1:45 pm
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There's an interview on IGN with Shigeru Miyamoto that is VERY telling...
| Quote: | | Shigeru Miyamoto: You know, in regard to the power of the Nintendo Revolution versus, say, the Xbox 360, we're looking at making a small, quiet, affordable console |
Again re-enforcing this will be a console of Animal Crossings and Nintendogs. But hey, people like cheap, right? ...though didn't Nin just recently hint games would be more expensive next-gen?
| Quote: | IGNcube: Can we expect Nintendo to collaborate with more third parties on Revolution games?
Shigeru Miyamoto: At this point, we've only been talking with a few companies. |
My guess, there will be 3rd parties for Rev, but it will be the smaller games or the Nintendo license games (like Mario DDR). When games are 'multi-platform', it will mean X360 and PS3... I just wonder how EA fits into this then.
| Quote: | | One thing we want to make sure that we don't do is have too many games of the same type or genre. |
FIrst, I don't get why that's a bad thing. Second, when was the last time that was a problem on a Nintendo system? Third, does this mean less Mario games too?
Again, Rev will be differnt... Nintendo is going the quirky, fun, cheap route. We'll see how this works for them... It is probably the best move the could make. Though this could really hurt future Metroids (and even Zeldas). Maybe they should let Retro leave too, cough./
http://cube.ign.com/articles/617/617000p1.html
It's quite a good read... |
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Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 3:19 am
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Why am I talking to myself? Anyways, in an interview on GS, Nintendo has said they plan on making sure Rev gets all the big 3rd party games? That somewhat contricts what they've said previously. Not to mention contridicts what theve said about the Rev hardware since I dont see that happening if the control scheme really is that different and the systems "power" really that low.
I also forgot to mention the 'hint' Reggie gave on G4 when talking about the Rev controller. He said think of something that is able to play these 20 years of Nintendo games (NES/SNES/N64). Not sure what to make of that...
I also find it odd that twice now in an interview someone at Nintendo has made referance to the power consumption of the Rev and how it will be low. WTF? Umm, who cares? So I wonder why they bother to mention it? There are rumors a big part of what will make the Rev revolutionary is it will be some sort of hybrid console/handheld. Whatever that means, cause we all know the DS sucks... cough/
And oh, anyone else notice how many times in interviews at E3 people at MS and Sony used the word "revolution" or "revolutionize" when talking about their games? Already trying to downplay the Rev, aye? |
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:51 am
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| Quote: | It's still cool to see that they aren't dropping the GBA in favor of the DS just yet, as I figured they would.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but there were maybe 10 gba games at E3 with the DS showing off an enormous amount I couldn't even count.
Bone, why do you think the Revolution will only get the weiner quirky games? You act as if technologically, 3x better than the cube is a step BACKWARDS. Double the hardware of the cube and you get something that looks just like the 360 games already shown. I'm pretty sure 10x and 35x is complete bullshit since those are capacities, not actual performance. Technically, PS2 is the most powerful system on the market today, and we all know how true THAT is.
The game boy micro is tiny. I didn't get to hold it since so many people were crowded around the babes handing them out. I did, however get to look at it up close. I'm pretty sure Nintendo is trying to appeal to the idiots that still play games on their cell phones. People are more concerned with looking cool than actually playing a fun game. This should appeal more to the Japanese market than anywhere else.
Concerning PS3 and Xbox 360 support, I hope we all realize that games for those systems could take twice as long to develop as a Rev title IF they wanted to bring out the full capacity of the system. It will also cost a lot more. So if you compare the $50 Smash Bros Online to say, the $70 Tekken 6 or Halo 3, that's a pretty big difference for price to be a deciding factor. From a developer standpoint, developing a Rev title could cost less than half the money it takes to make a game for the other guys, so selling half the amount wouldn't be as risky. Bottom Line: less rev games have to sell to be profitable = more 3rd party support. This is concerning the games that usually come to just xbox and ps2 than the huge exclusives, but these could establish a userbase and make 3rd party mega titles Rev exclusive.
ALL SPECULATION! |
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bonesquad
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:48 pm
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I thought I'd bump this to get everyone's hope up that Nintendo actually releases new Rev info this Thursday night (Friday in Japan at TGS). Believe! This is the real Thursdayton! (Inside GAF joke...)
And I still say Rev will be all about quirky weiner games (your words!). Sure there will be exceptions, like mature games on GC, but seeing as Rev will be 90% Nintendo supported, the exceptions might just be Zelda and Metroid... |
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