NBrid Chat Room: #nbrid (irc.velocityx.com)
The History of NB Chat: From #hybrid to #nbrid
02.05.02
BoneStormer
NBrid had its humble beginnings in a simple chat room, and really how the chat room has done has been a good indicator of the overall health of NBrid over the years. The room's importance has diminished as the website's has grown, but the room has quite the crazy history. Quite like this page with its chat gate foundation, but news gate location... OOooOOooOO...

We all know it stated on irc.sega.com (IRC0) back in April of 2000. NBrid really started to grow in a little room called #hybrid for some odd reason. There of course was also #dolphin to help promote Nintendo goodness, but let's stick with the main room. IRC0 used to be a good server. I stress used to be. It was an excellent videogame based community. Plenty of chatters, in plenty of rooms. Whole clans were based off simple chat rooms. This really was the "heyday" for NBrid. x-Trivia almost every night with videogame based questions and even the now lost Simpson based questions. People joined NBrid just because of this! The room could see 10+ chatters every night at times. Not to mention people waiting for the next hilarious chat stats update to see what moronic thing Hybrid said next.

However, our stay on this server would not last. Why? What has since become to be known as the "Great Split of 2000" ruined IRC0 (way more then even Sega's dropping of the Dreamcast). Back on July 30th we are all made because somehow the rooms became unregistered: "Hybrid Was Lost... Sega dropped #Hybrid and #Dolphin, but they're back up! Thanks a lot Sega!" But this took the perverbial cake... I'll let these old ezBoard posts explain:


8/15/00 8:00:31 pm

Sigh, I (BoneStorm), and a few others, were minding our own business in #hybrid when the following Global Message popped-up just past midnight (east.) 8.11.00:

-Global- I have been told by Lynn MacConnell to shut the server DOWN
-Global- So, this server is shutting down. Hope I see you on EFnet or DALnet...
-Global- or go to irc.seganet.net to chat
-Global- bye guys - thanks. it was fun while it lasted

Supposedly, this has been in the works for awhile now since there has been MANY complaints about ops/admins (like a letter to EGM). The story goes they were all given the chance to work under Sega, but Wookie and his gang didn't feel appreciated, so they all quit. It seems the issue of reseting all the klines was a 'sticky' issue. And so then there was a time when there were no ops in the main rooms, and all hell broke lose in those rooms (ie MASS flooding). Hence, Sega was forced to shut the server down.

For now you can chat at pwchat://irc.seganet.net:6667/ in many of the same rooms you could before (#Dreamcast, #bar, #Hybrid...). Please note that this server is run mainly by the former ops/admins of irc.sega.com (like Wookie), and has NO affiliation with Sega. See www.seganet.net for more on this server.

Or you could try pwchat://irc.freedomchat.net:6667/#Chatzone

Check out www.freedomchat.net for all the latest news on this story. They also say they are working on trying to link with Sega's chat server.

(Those on PC with mIRC, just type "/server irc.seganet.net" or freedomchat to join one of these servers.)

Anyways, keep watching this site, and sega.com's chat area, to see what turns up. But we hope to see you all in chat soon on one of these servers. (Or you could go to good old pwchat://irc.damaged.net:6667/#NNchat which is Nintendo Nations chat room.) Hopefully though, Sega will have its own server back up soon.

If you have something to say about all this, please do so in our General message board, thanks.


NbridNet

P.S. We will still have our meeting as planned, somewhere, on 8.27.00. We'll let you know more soon.


8/11/00 3:45:58 pm

Lynn MacConnell, Chief Technical Officer at sega.com:

"Good evening,

Please accept my apologies for having to shut down the server itself. It became apparent that it was the best plan, based on the results of this evening's events.

I also have to say that I appreciate that fact that you brought your concerns to my attention, and I can see by some of the postings that perhaps the events of tonight have worked out for the best.

Allow me a day or so to re-initiate the Sega.Com chat servers. As It happens, I had already hired dedicated Sega staff to act as Admins, and I will be recruiting new IRCOps. Of course, if there are Sega IRCOps who would rather remain, they are welcome to do so and I am more than happy to integrate them into the new team.

Moving forward, I believe that the future Sega.Com IRC server will be a great experience for everyone.

Thank you again for all of your emails and postings, and please feel free to update me on your ideas and thoughts in the future."


8/14/00 7:27:55 pm

Message to the Community,

Dear Loyal Dreamcast IRC members,

Following complaints that I had received about the management of the Sega IRC chat rooms, I initiated an investigation. What I found was that there were probably misunderstandings, and some bad feelings all around.

Last night, unfortunately, a few of the IRCOps and an administrator chose to take unilateral action and left the Sega servers un-monitored, thereby leaving the rooms open to those who are, shall we say, less than polite. To protect the Sega Community, and the younger members of our audience, I had to make the tough decision to take the chatrooms offline.

They won't be offline for long, however. Here at Sega.com we take your input seriously, and I have hired a team of Administrators who will take over the reins of the Sega.com chat monitoring. Further, I have come to know that many of the IRCOps in the public (who are very good, and against whom there were no complaints) did not participate in the activities of August 10. To those IRCOps I say this: you were not fired, and you are welcome to become part of the new team of operators.

It is unfortunate that a few people disrupted the experience for the rest of us. However, I am confident that moving forward the new chat rooms will be the best we can all make of them, together. There are no Sega-supported servers up at this time. If you are directed to one labeled as Sega or Dreamcast, this is false information. We will let you know when our Sega servers are back up.

Regards,

Lynn MacConnell
Chief Technical Officer
Sega.com


During the time the server was down, #hybrid moved over to irc.seganet.net (which later became irc.vidgamechat.com). Thankfully, IRC0 reopened a few days later on the 21st, but the server would never be the same. Many didn't come back, many refused to come back. They defected to a number of 'spin-off' chat servers including the forementioned irc.seganet.net, irc.freedomchat.net, irc.velocityx.net, and irc.bararcade.com (where all the ops who quit went to). So because a few pig-headed ops got pissed off about a stupid chat server, the Sega Community was broken-up and hence destroyed.

However, this was to be a new-improved and better IRC0 with less power-hungry ops. Yet it seems it was the very opposite. Server bannings grew to an all time high, for any server ever! And it wasn't the usual nuking, hacking, flooding, or even extreme misconduct that causes k-lines on most servers, but rather just say "Sega Sucks" and you wouldn't be back for a month. And all this was with OUT steping into a "main" room where it was much worse. This helped scare off any remaining chatters who had come back. So obviously we needed to move.

Where to? How about irc.seganet.net? Ok fine. But there were way still too many who wanted to stay back on IRC0 with the other people they "knew" at this time. This was a very 'hazy' time. Where was the real room with rooms on SegaNet and IRC0? There was even a room on irc.damaged.net for a very short time (hours?). But basically, #hybrid was still a IRC0 room. Then NBrid got server crazy.

For awhile it didn't matter. In February and even into March 2001, many people were Phantasy Star Online crazy and #hybrid stood empty on so many nights. But that eventually wore thin, and people (a few at least) came back to #hybrid on IRC0. This was the beginning of the end.

Around April 2001 there were a number of server bans causing many to get very pissed off to put it bluntly. We wanted to move and did a test run on the old NintendoNation network server (which really was part of damaged.net). Many thought that this dumb that we hated IRC0 so much. Was it any worse really then anywhere else? (Yes!) Some in fact were trying to get other clans to move back to IRC0 while we were trying to leave? Crazy thought Ultima-W! But the fact was IRC0 was full of bull shit politics. It had seemingly random k-lines. Services crashing again and again and sometimes the whole server itself. No clones were allowed as seen in their freaking 10 page long MOTD. Even Tork was banned. Wait, that's nothing new.

Remember WolfPack? These great chatters had found some backdoor to the Sega services (or had gotten hold of an admins password) and would come into your rooms and takeover. The fact Sega could do nothing or were too stupid to do anything (until they wised-up and for one got rid of BotServ, sniff we miss you MrBot) just made a bad situation worse. Thankfully, #hybrid was taken over only 3 times... Part of the reason why the attempt to bring back Trivia failed.

Freedomchat was brought up as a possible move since someone pushed FC over and over and over (coughVampMancough), but for so many reasons that was never a serious consideration. Even VidGameChat was mentioned we were so desperate to get off IRC0, and often many did in fact go on VGC when they were banned from IRC0. But alas, most wanted to stay on IRC0 so stay we did, at least officially. Or maybe like so many other things like a FireStorm or SG affiliation or those RLX Ladders, nothing ever came of it. Things had calmed down on IRC0. At least for awhile.

Yet bans continued to pile up (Hybrid, klamkila, myself and many others got repeated bans). Enough was enough and so we officially switched over to irc.enterthegame.com on Tuesday, July 16, 2001. Since there was already a room called #hybrid there, it made sense to finally name the room itself #nbrid. However this move never really took. Few people came. There never seemed to be any topic in the room, and since no one was on the aop list people couldn't add one. Then when punks came in and tried to flood us, us without ops, people gave up on ETG. Ironically, in mid-September Tork suggested we move to irc.velocityx.net. No one thought much about it at the time...

Around October 1, 2001, we moved to irc.ggn2k.net a server ran by a Sega clan (SegaDevils) and in theory was to host as many clans as it could. At first it seemed like a great idea. All the people that people wanted to talk to from old IRC0 in the same place but not on IRC0 with all the bull that server embodies. Yet, not surprisingly, it didn't work out. Its stability and lasting power came into question (read: frequent down times). More chat politics. And even an AOL server ban (but maybe that wasn't so bad). In short, we quickly left.

By Tuesday, October 16, 2001, we were back on IRC0. Why not back to ETG? Well it seems the lure of our old home was too much. Plus like I said, ETG never went over well for whatever reason. Was it the lack of services (like NickServ)? Was it its immense size? Who knows. Point is we were back where we started, albeit with a new room name. We decided it made the most sense to keep using #nbrid now. That and someone had registered #hybrid and no one wanted to bother getting it back.

This too would not last. Yet again the bull shit of bans and other crap forced us off. (What good does it do if say our own president can't come into the chat room?) But what were we thinking going back to IRC0 anyway? Well, we weren't. We knew of all the crap in the past yet for some stupid reason we thought it would be different, or just hoped it might not be too bad. You see they have the syndrome of what I call being a "cult of ops". Meaning basically they are friendly with other ops but find anyone else just annoying so kick them out whenever they open their mouths. How many times have you been told, "No rude tones." Whatever that is supposed to mean. Great server there using your once sacred name Sega.

Well, I had stalked JohnTork to a server called irc.velocityx.com (seeing as how he wasn't wanted anywhere else) when I received an 'indefinite' k-line on IRC0. See there was this infamous nuking of JohnTork by one Vegeta that has lead to many IRC0 k-lines just by uttering the word "nuke". Somehow when we needed a new server immediately due to all these bans (some how???), other people followed to VX too. So sometime around Feb. 13, 2002, #nbrid moved over to VX. Again this just didn't take hold. People still hung-out in #nbrid back on IRC0 for awhile.

And this brings us to present day #nbrid on irc.velocityx.com.

Or should I say what's left of #nbrid. #nbrid has been flat out DEAD as of recent. The room isn't even registered as of this printing. No one goes into chat. No one stays up to 3am talking about Legos as klamkilla puts it.

It's amazing how big a part the chat room has played in the life of NBrid. Things just hasn't been the same in #nbrid as they were back in #hybrid for whatever reason, heck it hasn't been the same in NBrid as a whole. The Great Split hurt our organization. But over time what started out in a chat room and initially centered around the room has slowly shifted to having its focus around the website. Maybe too much time spend on making a new site alienated chatters. Maybe it was for the best and just the natural evolution of NBrid. Who knows. I think all these server changes certainly helped push this change.

There has been one winner in all this: the boards. Back in July 2000 when our current ezBoard account was created it was so dead, and it stayed that way for a long time. No one ever posted. Partially because NBrid was smaller back then. But also because so many spent time in chat so as there was no reason to post. About the time of the whole PSO fiasco, the number of board posts took off. This along with a drop off in chatting has lead to a fairly busy board these days.

There are way too many people out there who take these chat rooms way to seriously. So maybe it's for the best. Where will NBrid end up moving to next? Who knows. It won't ever be IRC0 again. Not because we finally learned our lesson, but the recent developments there (all the ops yet again acting like babies and suddenly quitting) will surely kill it. Maybe someday a server can be found that will bring #hybrid/#nbrid back to its glory days. Maybe if a irc.nintendo.com opened up. Naw...

 

 

 

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